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the once bloodless coup turned bloody in egypt. this is "special report." good evening, i'm shannon bream in for bret baier. what had been calm turned into violence. there was blood shed elsewhere, as well. it came as supporters of ousted president mohamed morsi engaged in what they called a friday of rejection. we have fox team coverage. jennifer griffin at the pentagon is monitoring u.s. reaction. but we begin with senior foreign affairs correspondent greg in a very tense cairo tonight.
hello, greg. >> hey, shannon. the scene behind me in tahrir square might still be noisy but for the moment at least there is no violence. earlier tonight and all through the day we watched and listened as the streets of cairo were filled with the found of gunfire, the rumble of armored personnel carriers. there was violence on the streets of cairo and throughout egypt. tonight, supporters of ousted president mohamed morsi clashed with anti-morsi activists in the city. molotov cocktails and rocks were thrown. earlier in the day pro-morsi protesters moved on a republican guard headquarters building where it was thought he might be held by authorities. eyewitnesses say soldiers fired on the crowd, three people were killed, many more were injured. there were reports of at least 17 people killed in clashes nationwide. in alexandria, supporters of morsi battled with riot police. in the sinai peninsula a policeman was allegedly killed by islamists in a rocket attack. all this comes following massive protests against the unpopular
morsi, and the ousting by the egyptian military of the president, the dissolution of his government, and the shutting down of pro-morsi tv stations. at rallies held today by the muslim brotherhood called a day of rejection, the demand was made for morsi to be reinstated. the actions of the military were branded a coup. one leader telling the crowds to defend morsi with their lives. these are the egyptian people. and officials of muslim brotherhood's political party said today they're out in their millions to recover their revolution. there was a show of strength by the military. apache helicopters flew in the skies, armored penle carriers rolled through the streets in part to underscore who was in charge, in part to try to keep the two sides apart. in cairo's tahrir square itself the scene of so much activity in recent days anti-morsi protesters remained in big numbers ready to defend their actions and the military which is supporting them. >> we defend the army.
>> after a long duel tonight here in cairo between pro and anti-morsi activists the military finally arrived to break it up. but today we heard from morsi's supporters that they would fight on. shannon? >> greg palkot live in cairo. thank you, greg. the violence in egypt raises the stakes for the u.s. as it watches events unfold in a country that has been a major ally in the region. national security correspondent jennifer griffin is at the pentagon tonight. >> reporter: as president obama headed to camp david, he and other u.s. officials used the holiday weekend to avoid making any on-the-record statements about the change of leadership in egypt. earlier today, the president left the white house to play golf. secretary kerry remained in nan talkate where he phoned in to a emergency national security meeting thursday. and made calls to his egyptian counterpart and world leaders. a state department spokesman corrected an earlier denial that kerry had been out on his yacht. vice president joe biden stayed at rehoboth beach in delaware. so far the white house and other
administration officials have refused to refer to the egyptian military's removal of president morsi as a coup. by law that would trigger automatic freezes of $1.3 billion in u.s. aid to the egyptian military. president obama did not mention the rapidly changing situation in egypt on america's independence day when he addressed the soldiers and their families invited to the white house. even though he and his national security staff had been huddled in the situation room on july fourth, determining what the u.s. response should be to the removal and arrest of president morsi. the african union ejected egypt from its ranks following what it termed a coup. >> i would keep the aid flowing, particularly to the military, where we have the most leverage, and you know, all, all of this talk about why the administration can't call it a coup, you know, can't speak the truth, really conceals the fact that in virtually all of our foreign assistance legislation there's a presidential waiver power. >> reporter: on capitol hill lawmakers are on a week-long
recess for the july fourth holid holiday which buys the administration some time. shortly after morsi's removal, democratic senator patrick leahy said congress would have to reassess aid to egypt, but republican majority leader congressman eric cantor was more cautious, quote, the egyptian military has long been a key partner of the united states. and a stabilizing force in the region. and is perhaps the only trusted national institution in egypt today. >> they do have a second chance to put together a government that is inclusive. we cannot have a government that excludes the islamists. if there's any attempt to do that, then we're going to continue to see people in the streets. >> reporter: most arab leaders, including saudi arabia, qatar, even syria welcomed the removal of president morsi. in israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu ordered his ministers to remain quiet while the egyptians work out what comes next. shannon? >> jennifer, thank you. a long, hot scandal-filled summer just got a limb more bearable for president obama.
white house correspondent wendal goler looks at the june jobs report. >> reporter: the labor department counted 195,000 new jobs last month and added 70,000 to the original figures for april and may. the numbers were better than expected but the unemployment rate held steady at 7.6% at more people entered the labor market. the president's aides say the good news is that it felts with a trend. >> we've seen solid job gains over the last six months. 1.2 million jobs added over that period. over the last 40 months we've added 7.2 million jobs. >> reporter: for republicans on capitol hill, the news was not good enough. house speaker john boehner said in a written statement, quote, economic growth is still tepid, the unemployment rate is far too high, and the president continues to promote policies that undermine robust job creation. the june gains were across the board. jobs added in construction and health care, and even bigger increase in hiring by retailers, but the number of people working only part time, though they wanted full-time jobs, took its biggest jump in eight months. president obama's aides blame the sequester but some
economists say his health care law is more responsible, and they believe the decision to delay the employer health insurance mandate for a year was a response. >> a lot of businesses have been hiring more workers, and reducing the -- the work week for their workers below 30 hours a week. so that they could reduce the cost, reduce the hit from the affordable care act. >> reporter: the biggest jump in hiring came in businesses that cater to nonessential spending. which administration officials say is a sign of increasing confidence in the economy. >> restaurants and bars or arts, entertainment, recreation. retail trade. those industries have grown more strongly the last couple of months, and i think that's a sign that consumers are feeling more confident. >> reporter: but as we get back to a more normal economy, the fed is under pressure to taper off the bond buying that has kept interest rates extremely low. mortgage rates are likely to raise, but economists don't expect they will rise enough to have a big impact on the recovery. it will have a negative impact to some extent on growth.
but not a major impact at this point. only because the rise in rates is still pretty modest compared to where we've been. >> reporter: fed chairman bernanke plans to start scaling back about $85 billion a month in bond purchases in september as long as the economy continues to grow, and today's jobs report is seen as a sign he'll be able to stick to his schedule. shannon? >> wendell goler live from the the white house. thank you. stocks were up, the dow gained 147. the s&p 500 finished ahead 16. nasdaq was up 36. the red tape in the president's health care reform bill is getting so thick even the government can't get through it all on time. chief national correspondent jim angle looks at another rough patch for obama care. >> reporter: the delay in the employer mandate is not the first snag in implementing the law. in fact several parts of it have either been delayed or completely repealed. >> i think there have been some frustrations, and once you begin to get a few miles on the law,
it starts to pick up some nicks and scrapes. >> reporter: the exchanges for small business were supposed to offer workers several choices of plans. that was also delayed by a year until 2015. so workers will now only have one plan available. that may reduce participation in the small business exchange, and along with the delay in the employer mandate could put many more people in to taxpayer supported exchanges. >> if people have to have insurance, and employers don't have to provide it, the one thing left is to go to the exchanges, get the federal subsidies and get your insurance. that comes right out of the taxpayers' pocket. >> reporter: another delay the administration pushed back to 2015 a managed care option inserted into the law by democratic senator maria cantwell of washington and she was not happy about it. >> our read of the statute is that you're supposed to do it in 2014 and not spend your time luring people into the exchange. >> reporter: luring people into the exchanges, that she argues are far more expensive than the washington state plan. she pointedly accused officials
of delaying that in order to avoid low-cost competition. >> there are bias somewhere in the administration against lower cost, managed care delivery systems. >> reporter: one of the first parts of the law to be repealed was a provision forcing businesses to fill out another irs form. >> we saw the 1099 reporting requirement thrown out very quickly. was extremely onerous. >> reporter: it required businesses to fill out a separate irs form for any transaction with a single entity of $600 or more over the course of a year which they saw as a paperwork nightmare. >> extremely complicated, tons of paperwork, and i think you heard a lot from businesses, really an outcry of why are we doing this? why are we being made to do this? can you imagine the paperwork? and the cost associated with the paperwork. >> reporter: the administration had no good answer to that question. and repealed the provision. then there was the class act as part of the barter law offering insurance for long-term care. but the law said premiums had to cover their costs, and the
administration realized early on there was no way that would ever work. so well before the law takes full effect, some parts have already been discarded. but business leaders and lawmakers have several more changes they plan to propose. shannon? >> no doubt. jim angle, thank you very much. a latin american country legalizes gay marriage, accidentally. that's later in the grapevine. and up next, the state finishes its case against george
the prosecution has rested its case in the george zimmerman murder trial. correspondent phil keating is in sanford, florida, again tonight. good evening, phil. >> good evening, shannon. well, the prosecution saved trayvon martin's mother for its final day of witness testimony. hoping to seal a conviction with this jury. the defense flip-flopped that strategy at 5:00 today, calling its first witness, the defendant's mother. >> my youngest son is trayvon martin. he's in heaven. >> reporter: with the man who shot and killed her son watching in the courtroom, the mother of trayvon martin, one of the most anticipated witnesses in george zimmerman's murder trial, finally told the jury what prosecutors hope will seal their case. set up with another playing of the 911 tape. >> i can't see him. i don't want to go out there, i don't know what's going on.
>> ma'am, that screaming, or yelling, do you recognize that? >> yes. >> and who do you recognize that to be, ma'am? >> trayvon martin. >> reporter: inside the courtroom, the six women jurors, five of whom have children, appeared somber and serious. but then came an opening for george zimmerman's defense. when trayvon martin's other brother took the stand. he also said the screaming voice is his brother, but on cross-examination, mark o'mara pointed out that initially he was not so sure. >> it was might be trayvon, correct? >> when we heard it in the mayor's office -- how do i -- i wasn't -- i guess i didn't want to believe that it was him. so that's why during that interview i said i wasn't sure. >> reporter: autopsy photos of
the 17-year-old were shown on the big screen tv as the medical examiner testified, mart an rived with one bullet still in his heart and that the corpse was identified by his father, who distraught in the front row, wiped away tears. dr. bao said martin did not die instantly but within ten minutes. >> it is my opinion that he was still alive, he was still in suffering. >> reporter: zimmerman's defense jumped at that as bao had always said martin died one to three minutes after the shot. bao explained he changed his mind three weeks ago, due to a similar autopsy. >> whether it's from one to three minutes, from one to ten minutes, he was going to die. >> yes. >> and never recover from this gunshot wound, correct? >> he had no chance. >> reporter: late this afternoon the state rested its case. defense witness number one, gladys zimmerman, the defendant's mother. she and the court again listened
to those 911 screams. >> do you know whose voice that was screaming in the background? >> yes, sir. >> and whose voice was that? >> my son george. >> and are you certain of that? >> because he's my son. >> zimmerman's uncle then took the stand, as witness number two, and he also identified the voice screaming for help in the background of that 911 tape as his nephew, not trayvon martin. the defense of george zimmerman resumes here in sanford 9:00 a.m. monday morning. shannon? >> we know you'll be on it, phil, thank you. more than two dozen people were injured last night in the worst of the fireworks accidents on the fourth of july. this is the scene in simi valley, california, after a wooden platform holding pyrotechnics tipped over sending fireworks into the crowd. four people were listed in serious but not life-threatening, conditions. police in seattle are trying to figure out why a man in a stolen pickup struck had it stuffed with weapons, body armor and suspected explosive devices.
the 21-year-old man was arrested near the university of washington wednesday night. police say he had a scoped rifle, a shotgun and molotov cocktails. still ahead the unclean aftermath of clean energy. first, can you erase your digital footprint?
wikileaks says form nsa contractor edward snowden has applied for asylum in six more countries. it's not saying which ones. the irish times reports the u.s. has sent an arrest order for snowden to the irish government. snowden is believed to be staying in a moscow airport. the nsa scandal has been bad for the u.s., but good for one particular industry. senior correspondent rick levanthal tells us which one.
>> reporter: at some point, anyone with a computer will likely search the web, and maybe once in awhile click on that history button and clear it. but as we now know, that doesn't really clean your slate. many search engines and websites methodically track your usage, sharing information with advertisers, who target you with specific ads, and sometimes the government peeks in, too, as we've learned from the scandal involving the national security agency. now, search engines offering privacy are seeing a spike in business. like duck duck go, where use nearly doubled in recent weeks. it handles user queries but doesn't store the information so there's nothing to share with advertisers, and nothing for the government to see about you or your web habits. >> we always knew that people didn't want to be tracked. but the problem is they don't really know what to do about it. i mean people want private alternatives but they don't want a lot of sacrifice. so now people are hearing that they can switch, and get great results and great privacy. >> reporter: another service, called do not track me takes it a step further. >> we have built in-house with
our m.i.t. engineering staff a crawler that goes out on the web, and from time to time, surveys what tracking second nothings are out there. and we make a list of those. and do not track me blocks everything that's on that list. >> reporter: the spike in use of privacy sites is minuscule compared to the big search engines. duck duck go might handle 3 million users a day. google handles more than a billion. and cyber experts say you'll always leave an electronic footprint. >> five or ten years ago i probably threw my bank statements in the trash and expected them to be burned. well now i shred them before i throw them in to the trash. the same kind of thought process needs to go in to cyberspace. >> it's like when you use your cell phone and you're told to consider every call as on a crowded elevator. the experts say you should have limited expectations of privacy on the web, as well. shannon? >> rick, thank you. authorities in yarnell, arizona, hope to allow evacuated residents to return to their homes tomorrow.
the blaze that killed 19 members of an elite firefighting team last weekend is now 80% contained. some crews are being sent home. more than 100 of the 700 homes in that town have been destroyed. a follow-up tonight on last week's supreme court decision to extend federal benefits for same-sex couples whose marriages are legally recognized in their state. chief congressional correspondent mike emmanuel tells us change won't come cheap. >> reporter: the nullification of a key connection of the defense of marriage act by the supreme court will come at a cost, with federal benefits opening up for same-sex marriages, as well as traditional married couples. some critics predict extending spouse and dependent benefits to gay couples will have a huge impact on both the military, and veterans administrations. >> it will start small. and it will start to expand. and it will build, and then it will become a serious burden on already limited funds. and a bureaucracy that's struggling with a huge backlog already. there is nothing good that will come of this, except for the
president's political gain. >> reporter: shortly after the supreme court announced its ruling, top pentagon brass admitted it wasn't sure what the financial impact would be. >> no, we don't yet know because we just received the -- the decision. i'm sure there will be some costs. but, we'll figure it out. because we'll follow the law of the land. >> reporter: beyond the military and v.a., the repeal will require adjustments in major federal health and welfare programs including social security, retirement, and disability benefits, food stamps, welfare, medicare, and medicaid. taxation, employment benefits, and immigration status will also be affected, as will federal loan programs for education and housing. in the end, though, unexpert predicts big picture, this won't be a major expense. >> you'll see some increases in revenue because the gay married couples will pay higher income taxes but you'll see some loss of revenue because they may be eligible now for estate tax
exemptions. overall it's probably going to be pretty neutral. >> reporter: in all it's estimated 738 federal privileges and programs that use marital status to determine eligibility will face adjustment. and with defense already being cut and veterans programs struggling there is concern traditional married couples could lose some benefits. shannon? >> thank you, mike. republican governor scott walker has signed a contentious new abortion law. it requires women seeking an abortion to undergo an ultrasound and be given the opportunity to view the images. planned parenthood and the aclu quickly filed a lawsuit asking a federal judge to block the law, which is set to take effect monday. the texas state senate will hold a hearing monday on that state's proposed new law that would prohibit most abortions after 20 weeks. one central american country may have legalized gay marriage by mistake. and a world leader critical of u.s. spying on allies has some explaining to do. ♪ [ villain ] well mr. baldwin... it appears our journey has come to a delightful end.
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and now some fresh takes from the 34ri9 cal grapevine. do as i say, not as i do. that is apparently the message from french president francois hollande tonight. he has been harshly critical of the u.s. for allegedly spying on european allies but a french newspaper reports france has been illegally spying on its own people, phone calls, e-mails and social media activity. france's national security commission says the only agency collecting data is a security unit in the prime minister's
office. this week lawmakers in costa rica made history by passing a bill legalizing gay marriage by mistake. the legislature approved the measure changing the wording on an article to prevent discrimination. well it had previously defined marriage as between a man and a woman. costa rican media outlets support conservative lawmakers who voted for the bill are asking the president to veto it. liberals say their conservative counterparts should have read the whole bill before voting for it. the president has indicated she's not going to veto it. and finally proof that either some americans are in need of a refresher on history or really sarcasm doesn't translate on social media. thousands of people tweeted yesterday wishing america a happy 2013th birthday. seems they might have been confused thinking that the year 2013 has something to do with the founding of the united states. america, you know, is actually 237 years old. after other twitter users pointed out the mistake, many folks out there deleted their tweets. some others later tweeted they were just kidding.
we report, you decide. we chronicled many of the problems for the solar power industry. here's a new one. our correspondent tells us after going bankrupt a company has left a lasting dangerous and expensive energy. >> reporter: when solar panel manufacturer abound solar filed for bankruptcy last summer it not only left taxpayers with a $60 million bill from a federal loan guarantee, but thousands of pallets of panels covered with toxic waste. >> cadmium is a toxic metal. it's suspected carcinogen that causes cancer. it also is a, if you breathe the dust of cadmium metal it can affect your kidneys. >> reporter: the colorado department of public health and environment is in charge of making sure the panels in the thousands of gallons of contaminated liquids in warehouses and manufacturing plants are disposed of properly. >> so those facilities are big. there's a lot of machinery left behind. that machinery needs to be
decontaminated so that there is no cadmium left on that material. and that would be expensive. >> reporter: they say no state or federal cleanup dollars will be used. the tab, reported to be at $2.2 million job, belongs to abound. and if what's left of the company's resources don't cover it, property owners will be stuck with costs, as reusable inventory goes to other solar manufacturers. >> i think what you'll see is many of the materials that were left behind will end up in a recycling stream. >> reporter: the solar energy industry's association says despite the dangerous mess, solar is still the cleanest and most abundant form of energy today. >> it's unfortunate that they are bankrupt and out of business. but the technology that they relied upon, american innovation and technology, continues to thrive, and indeed i think we'll see that technology continue to grow and expand. >> reporter: efforts to reach abound solar's bankruptcy team
went unanswered. shannon? >> alicia, thank you. south africa's government is insisting the former president nelson mandela is not in a vegetative state. it says mandela is in critical but stable condition. a close friend says he was conscious and responsive earlier this week. pope francis has cleared the way to sainthood for two of his predecessors. the pope approved a second miracle attributed to john paul ii. and he decided to make john xxiii a saint despite the absence of a confirmed second miracle. it is getting bloody in egypt. we'll talk abo dad. how did you get here? i don't know. [ speaking in russian ] look, look, look... you probably want to get away as much as we do. with priceline express deals, you can get a fabulous think of the rubles you'll save. with one touch, fun in the sun. i like fun. well, that went exactly as i planned.. really? now save up to 60% during
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they will not leave the place, the republican guards have just fired shots in the air trying to scare them off. the crowd tells us, it was peaceful, it will always remain peaceful but we will not leave the streets. there will be -- back in office. >> the muslim brotherhood are going -- to attack the army. we. okay? we defend the army with our soul. >> hearing from both sides there in egypt as violence does spark up today despite calls for peace. let's talk about this with our panel. jonah goldberg at-large editor of national review online.
charles lane, opinion writer for "the washington post," and syndicated columnist charles togetherenhammer. i want to start off with something we got minutes ago, statement from the state department spokesperson basically saying we're calling on egyptian leaders to condemn the use of force and to prevent further violence among their supporters. jonah at this time how do the two sides control their supporters can they? >> i think that this is destined to get much more out of hand before it gets under control. and, it's -- we're in a very strange place where at least from our perspective the democrats, the small "d" democrats, are also essentially the bad guys. and how barack obama got us, or how circumstances got us, into a position where we are seen as both the supporters of hosni mubarak's regime, and of the muslim brotherhood, it's a really interesting move. and i think we'll spend a long time trying to figure out how we got into this mess. >> the latest reports say the death toll stands around 30 and
that today they were calling the friday of rejection. basically saying for the muslim brotherhood folks and their supporters peacefully resist, but, but -- >> i'm actually surprised the death toll was only 30. we saw footage earlier that slowed crowds in the streets not just in cairo, but all over egypt. and the truth of the matter is we don't know how far this can go. because the muslim brotherhood is a very, very big organization in egypt. whether you like them or not. they have a lot of grassroots support. and all -- or many of those people now feel that they've been thwarted. they played by the rules, they got elected and it didn't work, they couldn't take power. it's always in situations like that, some fringe of that movement, you can bet on it, will turn to violence, will adopt terrorism on the theory that they were thwarted when they went the democratic route. so i think this polarized situation is very, very dangerous, and it's very, very regrettable, as jonah said, in
the midst of that the united states seems to be disliked by everyone and they've lost influence in the -- in terms of how well we can control the situation. help control it. >> and charles, on the note that the muslim brotherhood does have a lot of support. there's a lot of opposition from many different quarters to that group as well. >> well, obviously the largest, the most organized, and disciplined of all the elements, all the parties in egypt. however, it is not a majority. it isn't even close to a majority. and what was so remarkable about the demonstrations that led to the overthrow of the government, and about the people standing behind the chief of staff when he announced the coup, where you had representatives of the christians, the largest and most respected sunni muslim mosque and university, where you had even a representative of a far -- a far more radical islamist movement, a newer party, so you had all the elements of society lined up against the brotherhood, each with their own grievances.
so, if the brotherhood decides that it's going to turn to violence, it's going to lose. because, you have a wall-to-wall coalition against it. the irony here is that the two most disciplined institutions in the country are the ones who will decide where this goes. the army has discipline, and the brotherhood. and that's why i think up until now, the violence has been relatively restrained. the brotherhood leadership, i think, understands that if it does in algeria and decides it's going to go and make war on the army, it's going to lose, and it will lose badly, and be imprisoned, and disburse or go back to the 1950s. if there is an outbreak it's going to come from a fringe of a fringe, who are not under the discipline of the party. and that, i think, is possible. but that would be radical sort of al qaeda types who want to make this into a bloodbath. and they, if there are enough of them, it could actually provoke a bloodbath.
>> and there's been some speculation about why the military acted as it did. it said there had been long ongoing discussions with morsi about trying to find some other kind of outcome. but there's also talk, jonah, there have been talks that there was possibly an infiltration or possible coup in the offing within the military itself of the muslim brotherhood. >> right. the analogy, it's funny, i was actually in israel, i was talking to some high-ranking israeli officials in 2011 when the original arab spring was going on and they all thought the rosiest, best-case scenario was that egypt would turn into an ataturk style turkey, early 20th century turkey with a secular military sort of guiding the country. and the irony is that may end up actually happening. and i think one of the parallels of this is that erdogan in turkey, the prime minister of turkey, he spent ten years trying to undermine the military, and get the control of the military. morsi tried to do it too quickly. i think a lot of the generals in the military, military in egypt said we don't want to go that way, this is our opportunity,
we'll be perceived to have democratic legitimacy, this is a one shot at stopping the muslim brotherhood from islamifying egypt and they took their shot. >> there's been a lot of talk among the administration about what we do or don't call this. our former ambassador to the u.n. john bolton talked about this and why the u.s. may or may not be use being the word coup and what difference it really makes. here's what he said. >> all of this talk about why the administration can't call it a coup, you know, can't speak the truth, really conceals the fact that in virtually all of our foreign assistance legislation there's a presidential waiver power, even if it looks like there's a prohibition in almost every case the president can waive the prohibition under the law to continue to provide assistance. >> so, chuck, if that is the case in our agreement with egypt that we could continue to provide u.s. aid to them, even if our administration decides to call this a coup, the ambassador there saying that's what it really is, and that's what most people agree that it is, do you think that that point will
encourage this administration to be any more definitive in its language? >> well, i guess it all depends on whether we -- whether there really is that provision in the law that ambassador bolton claims there is. my understanding based on some reporting i was reading today is that actually this is a provision is not waivable. that it's an iron-clad binding rule which is why the administration is sort of tap dancing around it and not using the word coup because they don't want to establish that precedent. apparently the state didn't's lawyers are going to have to make some sort of judgment about that. i think what you see the administration doing right now is kind of buying time to see how this is really going to unfold. if it happens the next two or three days that there's massive bloodshed, and you know the army's per sooefed as just sort of like another incarnation of assad in syria crushing the opposition, then they might take one tack. if this starts to unfold peacefully and the army picks up support, the administration may have no choice but to kind of bless it one way or the other. >> charles, what's the time line for them? how much time do they have to wait? >> i think it will -- they don't have a deadline. it's up to the events
themselves. the brotherhood has, you know, a few days or a week in which it can either reverse the revolution, or decide it has to go. either underground, or an open opposition. but peacefully. and that will determine events. nothing of the future of this revolution is going to depend on what happens in washington. and i think this argument ear the word coup is an example of how we are ineffective by legalism. the policy of the united states ought to be set by our national interests and not lawyers in the state department. >> gentlemen, thank you all on that topic. up next a whole lot more. it's the friday lightning round. ♪
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here we are, you know, a month and a half later, not one of our 41 clients who have filed suit in federal court against irs, the irs, and irs officials, have been contatted by the fbi. >> the irs, all right each week we ask you to vote in our friday lightning round poll for your favorite topic. today you chose the investigation into the irs targeting scandal, or lack thereof by some accounts. we're back with our panel. chuck, what do you make of it? >> well, i'm in the lack thereof camp. and, you know, the more we learn about this, the more we learn that groups across the
ideological spectrum were being parsed for their political content by the irs. senator roy brown of missouri, a republican today, made a statement suggesting that, well, maybe this wasn't quite the scandal we thought it was in the first place. >> all right. what do you think, jonah? >> well it seems to me that at minimum if the president of the united states goes on live television to denounce an outrage, and insists that they're going to investigate this fully, that you would at least get the fbi to start investigating it at all. and it seems to be a low standard. whether it turns out to be scandal i think it is and if you don't think it is it's one thing. doesn't sound like they're even trying to figure that out. >> charles at least for appearances sake you would think that it would be good for the administration to look at the fbi, that an agency is on it? >> if you had a press, and had any backbone. but in the absence of that, outside of -- >> present company excepted, of course. >> outside of fox there's nothing the administration has
to worry about. you mount an investigation, you then deflect any question, by saying, i can't talk about it, because it's being investigated, you do nothing about it, and then you wait, you let other news and scandals overtake it, like explosions in egypt, and then you count on the press to say nothing, and then it dies in time. and that's the strategy on benghazi, on the rosen affair and on this. that's how they do it, their m.o. >> all right today we're also going to talk about jobs numbers that came out today. unemployment says at 7.6%. here is a bit of what alan krueger chairman of the council of economic advisers had to say about these numbers today. >> we've seen solid job gains over the last six months. 1.2 million jobs added over that period. over the last 40 months we've added 7.2 million jobs. we had a deep hole that we're digging our way out of. the hole was created by the severe recession back in 2008. we're making progress. we want to build on this progress. >> jonah, they're doing the best they could with the bush mess
they were >> this is a summer r three, four, i can't keep it straight. look, it's a better jobs report than they've had in awhile. so when you grade on a curve, you know, sort of like the best oktoberfest in orlando. it's saying something. but, most -- a huge chunk of these jobs, part time jobs that are the kind of jobs that get created by the obama care mandate. these are the kind of jobs that people settle for when they can't find the kind of jobs that they want. we still have a pretty rough economy. >> in wendell goler's report, he said the number of people working only part time though they wanted full-time jobs has taken its biggest jump in eight months. chuck? >> you guys just stole the negative points i was going to make so i'm forced to say something positive about this jobs report which was for goodness sakes, with the corrections of the last two months, three straight months of approximately $200,000 jobs, which is the pace the fed is looking for to justify its taper later on this year. so i think it's obviously too
slow. not sufficient growth. not going to make anyone happy. but the economy you could say is reaching a soft landing and at least we're still moving in the right direction. >> in a lightningish answer for you. >> you're both right. a little counterclockwise spin and the result is that it's not moving. to change analogies, we're treading water. >> 7.6. it stays there. all right, now -- listen, by standards that's brevity at it's most. >> i was shocked. >> it is. okay. we want to make sure we get through everybody's winners and losers this week. we'll go right down the line. jonah i'm very interested to hear with yours. >> okay, so, the -- i'll start with my losers, the pro-abortion rights groups in texas they rallied around a woman who took a position that 80% of the american people don't like and ended up violating one of the oldest rules in public relations, don't yell hail satan
on public tv. and the church of satan themselves condemned them. >> right. >> which is just a wonderful move. and then my winner is king albert of belgium, who finally threw off the gilded shackles of the throne, decided to abdicate, and in a pr triumph reminded the world that belgium has a king in the first place. >> fascinating. all right, chuck. >> king albert, actually. >> prince, he isn't a king. >> exactly. >> my winner this week, picking up on what we were just talking about with the jobs report is the fed chairman ben bernanke. because he's been criticized from both sides on his monetary policy, but it looks like he's getting some results now. and my loser, obvious mohamed morsi, the now ex-president of egypt, who has lent new meaning to the term overplaying your hand, you know, made a hash out of his one year as president. >> obama care is a big loser. the announcement of the delay in the employer mandate, it's a
train wreck and it's now started. the winner, bashar assad, you might remember that it was morsi who called a few weeks ago for a jihad of sunnis. against syria which sort of angered assad. and now he gloats that he's in power, and he's winning his war. and morsi is in some undisclosed location, under police protection. >> that's going to be a long week for him. >> could be longer than a week. >> yeah. >> all right. well, gentlemen, thank you very much. winners and losers all. you're all winners. what i mean by that. as are our viewers. thank you for voting in this week's lightning round poll. that's it for the panel. but stay tuned.
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